YASER ABDUL SAID HAS NOW BEEN ARRESTED!So-called Honour violence is defined by the Honour Based Violence Awareness Network as "a phenomenon where a person (most often a woman) is subjected to violence by her collective family or community in order to...

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YASER ABDUL SAID HAS NOW BEEN ARRESTED!

So-called Honour violence is defined by the Honour Based Violence Awareness Network as "a phenomenon where a person (most often a woman) is subjected to violence by her collective family or community in order to restore ‘honour’, presumed to have been lost by her behaviour, most often through expressions of sexual autonomy." This type of violence seems to be more common in the Middle East and in countries such as India and Pakistan however it is thought to be very under reported as not only are the victims usually related to their attacker but in a lot of these countries, women still don't have many of the rights that many of us take for granted every day. Some of the things that can be seen as "dishonourable" include their choose of job, style of dress, their sexuality, choice of partner and deviating from what their family, community and culture may expect of them. Honour based violence can come in many forms, including forced marriage and abortion, abduction, physical violence, such as beatings, coercing women into completing suicide and honour killings. I would like to add a trigger warning now as we are going to be discussing two victims, both of whom were victims of sexual abuse and of honour based violence. Let's uncover the murders of Amina and Sara Said. 

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Amina & Sara Said
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Yaser Abdul Said
Yaser Abdul Said after his arrest in 2020


Sources

 

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/yaser-abdel-said 

 

https://www.ranker.com/list/americas-most-wanted-not-caught/philgibbons 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2862305/Yaser-Abdel-Said-Taxi-driver-suspected-murdering-two-teen-daughters-2008-New-Year-s-Day-honor-killings-added-FBI-Wanted-list-100-000-bounty.html 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2862305/Yaser-Abdel-Said-Taxi-driver-suspected-murdering-two-teen-daughters-2008-New-Year-s-Day-honor-killings-added-FBI-Wanted-list-100-000-bounty.html 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-honor-killing-suspect-yaser-said-could-be-hiding-in-plain-sight-as-nyc-cabbie-private-investigator-says 

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=4102781&page=1&singlePage=true 

 

https://pix11.com/2015/07/10/my-dad-shot-me-search-exceeds-7-years-for-father-suspected-of-killing-daugters/ 
 

Show Transcript

So-called Honour violence is defined by the Honour Based Violence Awareness Network as "a phenomenon where a person (most often a woman) is subjected to violence by her collective family or community in order to restore ‘honour’, presumed to have been lost by her behaviour, most often through expressions of sexual autonomy." This type of violence seems to be more common in the Middle East and in countries such as India and Pakistan however it is thought to be very under reported as not only are the victims usually related to their attacker but in a lot of these countries, women still don't have many of the rights that many of us take for granted every day. Some of the things that can be seen as "dishonourable" include their choose of job, style of dress, their sexuality, choice of partner and deviating from what their family, community and culture may expect of them. Honour based violence can come in many forms, including forced marriage and abortion, abduction, physical violence, such as beatings, coercing women into completing suicide and honour killings. I would like to add a trigger warning now as we are going to be discussing two victims, both of whom were victims of sexual abuse and of honour based violence. Let's uncover the murders of Amina and Sara Said. 

 

Yaser Abdul Said was born on in Sinai, Egypt on the 27th of January 1957, oldest of 5 kids. Before emigrating to Egypt, Yaser apparently ran over a co-worker in a fit of rage and killed him. His family were said to have "Paid a lot of money to get Yaser out of that". I don't know any more details about this or even when it happened but Yaser moved to America in 1983 and started work as a taxi driver. When he was 29, he met 15 year old Patricia Owens, a young girl who had previously been romantically involved with his brother Yaser. Yaser told Patricia's father that his family was wealthy, and that he wanted to marry Patricia and give her a good life. Her father agreed and despite Patricia still being a child and almost half Yaser's age, they got married and moved to Bradford Texas. She gave birth to three children, all while still in her teens, Islam was born in 1987,  Amina in 1989 and Sara in 1990. Yaser had another child the year before Islam was born but nothing else is known about this child and I don't believe Yaser had any contact with them. Islam was said to be socially awkward and while he was apparently close to his sisters, their aunties would later comment that Amina and Sara acted differently around him, saying that the minute he walked into the room, they would become very quiet. Yaser and his son had a very good relationship by all accounts and he treated Islam very well, a lot better than he treated his daughters. Amina was a social butterfly whereas Sara was more of a tomboy, and Patricia described her daughters as being "daddy's girls", which honestly made my jaw drop when I heard and I'm sure you'll understand why the more we progress through this episode. 

 

Patricia acknowledged Yaser was good to her at first, he would go on to have multiple affairs and was violent towards her. There is a photo of Yaser pointing a gun to Patricia's head and in one interview, she said he made her pose for that photo to remind her what would happen if she ever left him but on a separate occasion, she made light of the photo, saying he was just having fun. More disturbingly, there is a photo of Islam at 1 year old posed with a gun. Patricia claimed not to know about that photo until years after it was taken. Yaser  also took a few home videos and there is one where he is filing the two girls lying in their beds and makes a comment on them sleeping fully dressed. I'll insert audio from the video now. He is pointing the camera at the girl's legs as he makes that comment about them having nice legs and the viedo is just straigh up creepy. There is also a home video of Amina as a teenager, holding a gun and playfully pointing it in Yaser's direction as he is the one filming. The most awful thing about this video to me, is that it's likely the gun Amina is holding is the one that would eventually be used to shoot and kill her. 

 

While Patricia says Yaser was only violent to her, 9 year old Amina and 8 year old Sara accused their father of sexual abuse. They first told their grandmother who informed Patricia and CPS, who interviewed the girls and took them to the hospital for a physical examination.  The doctor claimed that there was no obvious signs of trauma but that they weren't able to rule out sexual abuse as having occurred. Due to lack of evidence and the girls unwilling to testify, he was never arrested for this although Patricia left him and moved in with her mother. He continually harassed her, begging her to come home. He made threats towards her family, which he was arrested for although Patricia took him back and she and her daughters returned to the family home after the girls recanted their story. Patricia's sister Connie says that Amina wrote her a letter, saying that her father had abused her and Sara but her mum and dad pressured them into saying they'd lied. Connie hid the letter in her house and called CPS to inform them of the letter, although it went missing before Connie was able to show it to the authorities. Connie believes that Patricia took the letter, but she denies this and states that she didn't even know that letter existed. Patricia also doesn't believe Yaser sexually abused the girls and says he was a good dad. This wasn't the first time Yaser had been accused of sexual assault. In the documentary Price of Honour, which has been invaluable in my research, Patricia's sister Jill claims that Yaser raped their other sister Billie. I don’t know how old Billie was or when exactly this happened but I believe Billie was a minor and she accused him before Amina and Sara did. The police were never informed as they decided to handle it inside the family. Patricia is very dismissive of this claim when asked about it in the documentary and claims not to know a lot about the allegation.  

 

Yaser's abuse didn't stop after the girls recanted their stories, it continued well into the girls teenage years. Yaser would go through the girls phone, demanding to know who they were talking to and texting. There is another video, filmed by Yaser that shows him sitting in his car with Patricia and Amina, videoing Sara at her job, clearly unhappy she is being friendly towards customers. When Amina defends his sister, saying that its part of her job, he responds saying that she's in trouble anyway. Given Yaser's abusive and controlling ways, it's not uprising that Amina kept her boyfriend a secret from him. Amina met Joseph through their love for karate and started dating shortly thereafter. By all accounts, Joseph and Amina's relationship was serious and they even had plans to marry after they graduated high school, but Amina knew her dad had other ideas. He would periodically take her to Egypt to meet much older men, with the view that one day, she would marry one of them. Amina knew this was not the life she wanted and emailed Joseph and this mother about this on numerous occasions. Here are some extracts from those emails; "He's gonna take me over there and let some guy choose me like I'm a freaking object. I'd give anything just to pick me own husband. I don't want to marry a stranger. I can't, I'm an American, I'm not like them. He was talking to my uncle about the bride prides for his daughters, that makes e so mad. They are literally selling us. Our parents are telling us who to live and no one is standing up to them." Patricia denies that Yaser was trying o get the girls married off  but her sister Jill says that Patricia old her that Amina and Sara would have to marry a Muslim man and her and that they would never be allowed to marry an American.  

 

Amina and Joseph would often write each other hand written notes that they would pass to each other between classes. Yaser found one of these letters in her bedroom and although Amina claimed she had wrote it, pretending she had a boyfriend like everyone else, Yaser didn’t believe her and moved his family 20 miles away, presumably to try and put an end to their relationship. He took away Amina's phone but she was still able to email Joseph's mother and told her how miserable she was and how much she still loved Joseph. Amina started to open up to Joseph's mother, telling her about all the abuse she suffered at the hands of her father. She told her that he would kick her in the stomach and that once, he beat her so sadly that her braces were embedded into her lip. When Patricia is asked about this in the documentary, her response was that Amina never had braces. I get that she probably said this to disprove that particular claim but I think addressing whether your husband beat your kids at all is probably more important but Patricia, again, acts very aloof, stating he was a good dad. The last time Amina visited Egypt, she asked Joseph's mother "Should I refuse to get on the plane? Like, he can't carry mr and force me on, I'm 17, doesn't the law protect me in any way? I got stoned last night I went. People literally picked up stones and threw them at me". Amina did end up going on this trip to Egypt with her father and little is known about what happened during that trip but they did eventually return, something Amina had been anxious about as he hid her passport the minute they arrived in Egypt.  

 

In December 2007, Patricia left Yaser, taking her daughters and two of their friends with them, eventually leasing an apartment in Tulsa, Oklahoma under an assumed name. Patricia called her sister Connie, explaining that she had left him because Yaser said he would kill their daughters for dating American boys. Patricia said that she told the girls to take their sim cards out of their phones so Yaser couldn't track them, however she would eventually call Yaser and his brother Yasseim anyway. After a few weeks in Tulsa, one of the male friends had to return to Texas due to prior commitments and Patricia thought it might be a good idea to go back to Texas to visit family over the holiday period. She promised the girls they wouldn't have to see their father so they agreed and returned to Texas, but Patricia had lied. She didn't tell the girls until they had returned to Texas that she was going back to Yaser. Amina was outraged and refused to return home, so she stayed with a friend instead. Patricia called her on numerous occasions, begging her to come home and she finally agreed to meet her mother at the family home on New Year's Day 2008. Under the guise of being happy to have his two girls back, Yaser said he was going to take the girls out to celebrate. They left in taxi and this was the last time anyone other than Yaser saw the girls alive. 

 

Sarah called 911 at 7.33pm, saying that her dad had shot her, their bodies wouldn't be discovered until a man called authorities after finding the girls bleeding in the back of the taxi, in a motel parking lot in Irving, Texas. Both were deceased by the time police arrived. Sara had been shot 9 times and Amina twice. It is thought to have been an honour killing as Yaser thought the girls were too American and hated that they had boyfriends. Many people who kill members of their family in supposed honour killings do so under the guise of religion, particularly Islam. Many Muslim leaders and believers of the faith have affirmed that the Quaran, in no way, condones honour killings and it's more to do with culture than religion. There is no way to justify violence like that and there is nothing honourable about it. It's murder, plain and simple.  

 

Police began searching for Yaser immediately but all attempts to locate him failed. Many, including myself, believe that someone picked him up at the scene and helped him escape. The girls were found in his taxi, so he had no vehicle to drive away in so t's more than likely someone picked him up, I don't think he would have risked walking away from the scene. Also, is it possible that whoever picked him up knew that Yaser was about to kill his daughters in that location? I know it took an hour for the girls to be found but I doubt Yaser shot his daughters in the taxi, got out, called someone on the off-chance they'd be able or willing to pick him up then hang around waiting from them, it seems to have been much more thought out than that. Also, assuming he was in the taxi when he shot them, he would have had blood on him, yet another reason he wouldn't have left on foot. The Price of Honour documentary speculates that Yaser's brothers helped him escape as he his brother Moshin directly after shooting the girls and he also called Yassuem a few hours later. That is not the only person Yaser contacted. He also spoke to Patricia, as phone records show she received an incoming call from him at 9.06pm. Despite this damning evidence, Patricia sates she was never spoken to him since the murders, although her own family speculate that she helped Yaser escape authorities. Before police taped off Yaser and Patricia's home to search for any evidence leading to where he might be, for some reason I seriously don't understand, the SWAT team allowed Patricia to enter to house to collect some of her belongings. Connie and Jill claim that Patricia exited the house with a box the pair would often keep important documents in, including their passports and sure enough, police were unable to locate his, meaning that its possible she took his passport out the house and gave him it to aid in her escape. There is a petition on Change.org, urging police to arrest Patricia with being an accessory to the murder and I can certainly understand why people believe she is partially responsible for what happened to her kids. She knew her kids were in danger from Yaser, she told her own family that she was scared he would hurt the girls for having boyfriends, yet she lured them back to Texas under false pretences anyway. She didn't believe her daughters when they told her their father was sexually abusing them and pressured them into telling CPS nad police they made the whole thing up and despite Yaser having killed her two daughters, Patricia still stands by him being a good dad. In the documentary, she says "How could I have known he was going to kill them?" When I watched the part of the documentary where she says that, I feel as though she said it in a very casual way. It's really hard for me to put myself in her shoes, however if I was her, I can't even describe the immense guilt I would feel about bringing my daughters back into an abusive household, for their father to kill them just hours later, but she sits there, seemingly oblivious to it all, like "well, it wasn't my fault, I didn't kill them." She knew her daughters were in danger and she saw the abuse they suffered over the years and still continues to defend him. I understand she was also the victim of his abuse but a mothers role is always to protect her children and she knew coming back to Texas with Amina and Sara would be putting them in harm's way and she did it anyway. 

 

Islam Said is thought to be in Egypt buit his exact whereabouts are unknown. He has publicly pleaded for his dad to turn himself in and said to the media "Religion has nothing to do with it and it was very wrong. Islam is not a bad religion." Chief Larry Boyd from the Texas Police Department stated " This homicide is particularly disturbing because the one person who Amina and Sarah Said should have been able to look to for protection is the very person we believe took their lives. Yaser Siad has been on the run since he committed this heinous act but we will not give up on our quest to bring him in. 

 

Yaser Abdul Said is, as of March 2020, o the FBI's 10 Most Wanted List and there is a $100,000 reward for information directly leading to his arrest. As of March 2020, he would be 63 years old. Police don't have any evidence to show he has left the country and believe he is hiding in plain sight, possibly as a taxi driver in New York. He is known to frequent Dennys and IHop restaurants and smokes Marboro light cigarettes. When he was last seen, he had salt and pepper hair, with a receding hair line, had brown eyes and stood at 6'2, weighing 180lbs. He has a dark brown spot on the lower left hand side of his neck. He is known to wear dark sunglasses frequently, even when he is indoors and should be considered armed and dangerous. If you have any information on his whereabout, please do not approach or try to apprehend him,  instead you are urged to contact the FBI on 1-800-CALL-FBI